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Oct 24, 2012 12:21 AM
#1
THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- Monet didn't have wings in that Flashback so does that mean...she just makes them out of snow and isn't really a harpy, since she used them as swords? Well it's been totally confirmed she's a logia and lol at her reaction to people complimenting her beauty XD Sanji was fun has usual, how he commanded the Marines hahahaha XD Glad to see that Nami was able to land a hit on Monet...she can be useful even against a logia. And finally Captain-chan joins...I wonder if her and Zoro will really fight together? I'm interested in what Monet said about Zoro, how he didn't point his sword against her? Has he become like sanji and doesn't hit women? XD or is it something more serious? |
Oct 24, 2012 12:21 AM
#2
Damn, that snow woman is one hell of sneaky bastard. Captain chan joins Zoro! |
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Oct 24, 2012 12:27 AM
#3
Monet is great, her reaction were funny. I think she's probably like a mermaid that at a certain age she can take on human features with her wings and talons. maybe its just sooner than a mermaid? Sanji has been awesome this arc, everything he does makes me laugh. Looks liek Zoro is either reluctant to cut a girl or cant cut a logia yet, i think it's probably the former. Surprised tashigi has Haki, never expected that. Nami and Robin were useful as well so glad to see that. does this confirm haki for Robin since she was able to break Monet apart? great chapter 5/5 |
Oct 24, 2012 12:42 AM
#4
So her wings are made of snow. What about her legs now ? Seems like Zoro don't want to cut down a woman. Go captain-chan ! It's your turn to shine ! |
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Oct 24, 2012 12:44 AM
#5
W-wait... was Tashigi blushing??? Maybe because it's cold? |
Oct 24, 2012 1:09 AM
#6
I'm pretty positive now that Monet isn't StrawHat material. |
Oct 24, 2012 1:23 AM
#7
Nobody consider it had to do something with Zoro's haki? |
Oct 24, 2012 1:58 AM
#8
Now that I think about it...I don't think I've ever seen Zoro fight a girl before...so maybe he's always been like that? Maybe something to do with Kuina? |
Oct 24, 2012 2:29 AM
#9
Monet was sexy without the bird legs and her wings. The flashback was too long though, I hate the children. Gotta love the Sanji and Zoro moments, never gets old haha What's with Zoro though, why is he holding back and Tashigi is going to help him, really? |
Oct 24, 2012 2:48 AM
#10
Zoro can finish Monet in one second. I wonder what he is up to.. |
Oct 24, 2012 2:59 AM
#11
Haha, this is why sanji is my favorite character |
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Oct 24, 2012 2:59 AM
#12
obviously he can't 'fight' a girl like Sanji.. so Tashigi will help him.. anyways enough with the damn kids flashbacks.. |
Oct 24, 2012 3:21 AM
#13
cool things about this chapter : 1. Tashigi has haki 2. Tashigi and Zoro Finally met ^_^ |
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Oct 24, 2012 3:35 AM
#14
It's amazing how much One Piece has dropped off since the timeskip... A timeskip usually means it's going to get better! But I won't drop this despite being unsatisfied pretty much the whole time since the timeskip, I've invested too much time into the series to drop it after a few poor arcs! Admittedly, this one is much better than the last, the last was quite painful to read lol. Currently I don't feel it's going too bad though. Can't wait for Caesar to get what's coming to him. :D |
Oct 24, 2012 4:49 AM
#15
Monet fighting was cool.She was cute when she was blushing.XD Zoro Sanji Hillarious as always And after 2 years finally Zoro and Tashigi meet again! |
Oct 24, 2012 4:54 AM
#16
Oda is focusing too much on the kids, his anti-drug campaign isn't that succesful I'd say but hey, he was always that subtle. And Monet's peculiar characteristic has surfaced, weakness to compliments. At last, Sanji and Co have united with the rest. How in the world can snow become a blade if not by turning into ice??? Ao kiji's ice sabre has shown itself through the snow ability. |
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Oct 24, 2012 5:03 AM
#17
Mhmm interesting chapter...Monet confirmed as a logia~ Zoro seem's to have become like Sanji in the sense he won't hurt a woman...or at least doesn't wish to. Does appear he's holding back. Tashigi/ Zoro tag team against Monet now then? xD Unless she takes care of Monet her self, interesting to know she can also use Haki. The way Monet said it...sounded like Zoro can't but I doubt that. I'm going to assume he just doesn't want to hurt her. Then again he's always been like that no? May be Zoro is being held back until one of Doflamingo's people come? xD Sanji, LOL when he came through~ Kids...there still running rampant...wonder how they'll be cure and when. Nothing on Law, Smoker or Luffy this chapter~ |
Oct 24, 2012 5:15 AM
#19
Another good chapter, really liking this arc :D glad to see tashigi fighting, we're really going to be seeing tashigi/zoro and luffy/smoker relationships start to develop me thinks :P Not sure whats up with zoro xD and i cant wait until doflamingos crew get there, although it seems they would be a lot more powerful than the straw hats? not luffy but the others, at least thats how i see it in my head anyway. anyway it will be interesting to see what happens in the future, once a week kills me >.< |
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Oct 24, 2012 5:19 AM
#20
okish chapter still i'm bored with kids and CC flashbags they become very pointless and redundant. |
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Oct 24, 2012 5:31 AM
#21
Damn it when will we finally get to see Zoro get serious?? It's killing me >:O I don't know what's going on with him. Wish the flashback with the kids would've been stripped from this chapter. Hell I wish the kids were taken out of the arc altogether. Also, I believe Monet was in solid form, like ice, when Robin attacked her, so no it's not proof she has haki. EDIT: Also, if it turns out that Zoro can't use haki yet, I can't describe to you how pissed I will be. |
luffydragneelOct 24, 2012 5:43 AM
Oct 24, 2012 5:36 AM
#22
wow, horrible chapter, I was really disappointed. and what the fuck monet, you get owned by nami? by tashigi? what the actual fuck? |
Oct 24, 2012 5:46 AM
#23
Shaduge said: wow, horrible chapter, I was really disappointed. and what the fuck monet, you get owned by nami? by tashigi? what the actual fuck? God forbid women get to actually, legitimately be useful without much fanservice involved. You know heat melts snow and Tashigi has haki, right? |
PipokoOct 24, 2012 5:50 AM
Oct 24, 2012 5:49 AM
#24
Good chapter with everyone fighting Monet, it was interesting see her abilities and see that only Zoro could stop her. She admited she was weaker than Zoro but for some reason Zoro didn't fight her. In flashback, she seemed a normal girl, therefore her wings and legs must be something to do with her Akuma no mi. The end was very funny, with Sanji mocking Zoro and Zoro retaliating. Tashigi would not be necessary, in my opinion :/ Is just a excuse for Oda to give her more important time in this saga, Zoro could beat Monet alone :/ |
Oct 24, 2012 6:02 AM
#25
Pipoko said: God forbid women get to actually, legitimately be useful without much fanservice involved. You know heat melts snow, and Robin actually hit the her in a snow monster form, right? Robin is strong, nami and tashigi are just fodder and will remain fodder. If you want to tell me that someone zoro is having trouble with and that is part of doflamingo's crew and a logia on top of that would get hurt by a girl who got humiliated by both law and vergo after 5 sec and a girl who can only bitch around and get kidnapped, then I must say that something is amiss. And something else just came in mind, how come everyone but nami gets hurt during fights? Take robin for example, she's struck by lightning, abused in the cp9 arc, well she gets hurt whenever she's in a fight like the current one for example while nami is always saved in the last second, always evades attacks as if she has CoO haki, that's a serious problem. I remember when she switched bodies with sanji, there she actually got hit. I just find it weird that someone who can deal damage is so overprotected by the plot. If she belongs to this manga, then she should get treated like everyone else. |
Oct 24, 2012 6:12 AM
#26
Shaduge said: Pipoko said: God forbid women get to actually, legitimately be useful without much fanservice involved. You know heat melts snow, and Robin actually hit the her in a snow monster form, right? Robin is strong, nami and tashigi are just fodder and will remain fodder. If you want to tell me that someone zoro is having trouble with and that is part of doflamingo's crew and a logia on top of that would get hurt by a girl who got humiliated by both law and vergo after 5 sec and a girl who can only bitch around and get kidnapped, then I must say that something is amiss. And something else just came in mind, how come everyone but nami gets hurt during fights? Take robin for example, she's struck by lightning, abused in the cp9 arc, well she gets hurt whenever she's in a fight like the current one for example while nami is always saved in the last second, always evades attacks as if she has CoO haki, that's a serious problem. I remember when she switched bodies with sanji, there she actually got hit. I just find it weird that someone who can deal damage is so overprotected by the plot. If she belongs to this manga, then she should get treated like everyone else. Nami used heat against snow and Tashigi used haki. Neither took out Mone. You rage. lol. Mone even said herself that physical strength means nothing if one has the appropriate skills or is skilled enough to damage and delay the opponent otherwise. See: her confrontation with Luffy. Nami got pierced in her leg by ms. double-finger during her fight. She also got shigan'd by Kalifa. Both looked pretty damn painful. I'd personally count the whole falling ill at Drum, too, but it's shonen so other people just count physical injuries as "being hurt". |
PipokoOct 24, 2012 6:17 AM
Oct 24, 2012 6:17 AM
#27
Pipoko said: Nami used heat against snow and Tashigi used haki. Neither took out Mone. You rage. lol. I am not raging, I'm crying seeing monet who seemed strong being toyed with by fodder made me sad |
Oct 24, 2012 6:20 AM
#28
Shaduge said: Pipoko said: Nami used heat against snow and Tashigi used haki. Neither took out Mone. You rage. lol. I am not raging, I'm crying seeing monet who seemed strong being toyed with by fodder made me sad I'm just happy Nami keeps the whole crew alive by navigating the ship(they all would be pretty much dead), she isn't useless and made progress with her weather techniques. That and Tashigi has actually made progress during the timeskip by learning to use haki as well. It's even funnier that you dislike this because it's just one attack as well and Monet pretty much is unfazed by the end of the chapter. So many shonen series make the girls freaking useless. Tashigi and Nami aren't strong physically, but they are skilled as this chapter shows(and Tashigi bouncing the cannonball back a while ago showed) and I'm completely okay with that. |
PipokoOct 24, 2012 6:40 AM
Oct 24, 2012 6:20 AM
#29
I like Monet (awesome henchman) zoro-sanji funny moment cool chapter |
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Oct 24, 2012 6:48 AM
#30
luffydragneel said: Damn it when will we finally get to see Zoro get serious?? It's killing me >:O I don't know what's going on with him. Wish the flashback with the kids would've been stripped from this chapter. Hell I wish the kids were taken out of the arc altogether. Also, I believe Monet was in solid form, like ice, when Robin attacked her, so no it's not proof she has haki. EDIT: Also, if it turns out that Zoro can't use haki yet, I can't describe to you how pissed I will be. Luffy said that him, zoro and sanji have haki in this arc. Ill try and find the page :P http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/668/12 And when he saw monet was a logia he said that hes the only one capable of fighting her i do believe :) http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/685/20 thats what he said ^_^ hes not just gonna say that if he cant fight her xD |
jimbob1141Oct 24, 2012 7:05 AM
Does anyone else need a doctor to confirm that someone without a head is dead? |
Oct 24, 2012 7:06 AM
#31
^ yeah he said that to law when they wanted to capture caesar @pipoko whenever someone tries to protect nami he says "she's the navigator". Navigation in one piece is something that is made to look difficult but in reality isn't. Without saying much, I'll just say this: fodder pirate ships making it to shabody, fishman island and even the new world. Even buggy's crew made it far. You are talking about weather techniques but to me it's more like she's casting some spells. It seems to me that the instant usopp made that toy (I don't even know how) and gave it to her she became a wizard, that's just proving what I said previously, she doesn't seem like she belongs to the manga. I'm fine with tashigi knowing haki, but I wouldn't like seeing someone who got humiliated by vergo and law standing a chance against monet, because monet seemed really strong to me until this chapter where I lost half of my respect to her. I wouldn't like to see something like this happening to strong characters in the future like doflamingo for example |
Oct 24, 2012 7:18 AM
#32
I thought it was a general consensus that Law added Monet's wings and talons sometime between the flashback and the "present"? |
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Oct 24, 2012 7:29 AM
#33
Shaduge said: ^ yeah he said that to law when they wanted to capture caesar @pipoko whenever someone tries to protect nami he says "she's the navigator". Navigation in one piece is something that is made to look difficult but in reality isn't. Without saying much, I'll just say this: fodder pirate ships making it to shabody, fishman island and even the new world. Even buggy's crew made it far. You are talking about weather techniques but to me it's more like she's casting some spells. It seems to me that the instant usopp made that toy (I don't even know how) and gave it to her she became a wizard, that's just proving what I said previously, she doesn't seem like she belongs to the manga. I'm fine with tashigi knowing haki, but I wouldn't like seeing someone who got humiliated by vergo and law standing a chance against monet, because monet seemed really strong to me until this chapter where I lost half of my respect to her. I wouldn't like to see something like this happening to strong characters in the future like doflamingo for example She navigated them up from reverse mountain, up to Skypiea and saved them from the storm before Drum while she was sick. Especially the going to Skypiea was a big deal and these would have damaged the crew pretty hardly regardless of who else made it through to the GL or NW. She's also the person who gambled to get the 300 million berry at Water 7(also brought sake and meat for Luffy and Zoro later), figured out Jaya was connected with Skypiea, was the first one to suggest they should repair Merry, decided to give away all their money to save Camie. She is undoubtedly important and relevant, but also has a character arc. All of her techniques are actually based on the weather conditions of the location she's in and her smartly using the properties of the dials(which I assume her new climatact has the properties of, hasn't explained yet, but probably will be), not "magic" as you put it. No, I don't think the crew would've made it far if they didn't have her with them. Hell, the whole of Arlong arc shows that she was a really strong girl. Does a character really have to be a power-house to be relevant? Geez. She's not my favorite of the crew either(that would be a tie between Zoro, Ussop and Luffy), but you can't deny that she's pretty damn useful and has made great progress from East Blue. To add to that, I dislike powerlevels(which One Piece luckily avoids). I'm glad a weaker character can harm really strong ones in this series(and it makes sense, like in this case with Nami this chapter). See: Perona vs. Ussop and Luffy vs. Enel. |
PipokoOct 24, 2012 8:03 AM
Oct 24, 2012 7:31 AM
#34
Lol Sanji xD Chapter was good even though the progress was slow. |
Oct 24, 2012 7:42 AM
#35
Oct 24, 2012 8:15 AM
#36
Tashigi is joining the fight! Woohoo. I wonder what would Zoro feel having Kuina's doppelganger on his side. |
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Oct 24, 2012 8:20 AM
#37
jimbob1141 said: luffydragneel said: Damn it when will we finally get to see Zoro get serious?? It's killing me >:O I don't know what's going on with him. Wish the flashback with the kids would've been stripped from this chapter. Hell I wish the kids were taken out of the arc altogether. Also, I believe Monet was in solid form, like ice, when Robin attacked her, so no it's not proof she has haki. EDIT: Also, if it turns out that Zoro can't use haki yet, I can't describe to you how pissed I will be. Luffy said that him, zoro and sanji have haki in this arc. Ill try and find the page :P http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/668/12 And when he saw monet was a logia he said that hes the only one capable of fighting her i do believe :) http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/685/20 thats what he said ^_^ hes not just gonna say that if he cant fight her xD Yes, I remember all that and that's why I said I would be pissed if he really doesn't. The only reason I say it is because Monet made the remark that he was only blocking her sword attacks. And when tashigi showed up she was startled to see a swordsman who can use haki. All that seemed to insinuate that Zoro at the very least wasn't using haki. Though I'm sure he's just holding back. |
Oct 24, 2012 8:35 AM
#38
Damn I'm so sick of seeing the kids. I'm still waiting on Smoker vs Vergo |
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Oct 24, 2012 8:51 AM
#39
Oct 24, 2012 9:02 AM
#41
Monet is a master troll. It's damn funny. I'm glad she knows her limit and knows who to try to fight and not. Yeah i think Zoro wont cut a woman. IIRC aint Sanji the same way? I think we call an agree we are sick of these kids. Nobody cares about them and i hate kids in my anime/manga period especially if they're brats. |
bonifideOct 24, 2012 9:07 AM
Oct 24, 2012 9:40 AM
#42
Monet would make a nice addition to the crew, she should replace nami, I have never been a fan of this whore (no offense but she's a whore). Ralonzo said: Shaduge said: nami is always saved in the last second, always evades attacks as if she has CoO haki Yeah, what a shocker that the Straw Hat navigator, whose job is to observe surrounding conditions to guide the ship, might have a latent CoO haki. Knock me over with a feather! She doesn't have haki and it would be completely retarded for a random girl to just get haki. What he probably was talking about was "plot armor". The only ones who'll have haki will be luffy, zoro and sanji. |
Oct 24, 2012 9:58 AM
#43
Lolack said: She doesn't have haki and it would be completely retarded for a random girl to just get haki. What he probably was talking about was "plot armor". The only ones who'll have haki will be luffy, zoro and sanji. Everyone can have CoO and CoA, Rayleigh said that. Considering her incredible talent in predicting weather I wouldn't be surprised at all if Nami developed it, but I don't think she has it right now. All of her fights just involve her knowledge in weather and her using what she has for advantage, just like Ussop's fights. |
Oct 24, 2012 10:41 AM
#44
Oct 24, 2012 10:48 AM
#45
Zoro and Tashigi team! This is going to be interesting. ^^ Zoro, you've grown soft man, I understand that you don't want to kill a girl but you should at least overpower her and put her in her place without any critical damage (like you did with Tashigi back in Loguetown). Any way, If Zoro specializes in CoO, maybe he can hear/feel her emotion/internal conflict? She does seem like a complicated case after all. It wouldn't be surprising if Zoro took pity on her. Well, that's what Tashigi's there for now any way. Sanji leading the Marine's was so One Piece-like ^^. |
Oct 24, 2012 11:06 AM
#46
I wonder his Zoro's reluctance to strike Monet comes from his time with Perona. |
Oct 24, 2012 11:40 AM
#47
Tashigi and Zoro vs Monet.... though im pretty sure zoro would be able to handle monet himself. Another girl that wants zoros dick other then robin and perona. Poor sanji, zoro gets all the bitches |
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Oct 24, 2012 3:53 PM
#48
flame_master_14 said: I thought it was a general consensus that Law added Monet's wings and talons sometime between the flashback and the "present"? thank god someone mentioned it. Dudezors srsly, what's with you all and those wings/harpie theories. Lolack said: Monet would make a nice addition to the crew, she should replace nami, I have never been a fan of this whore (no offense but she's a whore). and that's wrong because? ^^ I don't get the Nami hating, but I guess that's in tastes so I'll skip that. I srsly doubt Monet will join the crew, especially after this chapter and her "monster" face, but then again Zoro left a window for thought open for that. She will probably just be "saved" from Donquijote or sth like that. I wish that wouldn't happen though, and I think her "Doflamingo would kill me (licks her mouth)" was just as in "captains orders, we all know what happens to those who oppose.", but then again Zoro doesn't want to hurt her and there's the posibility of her being controled by Doflamingo (dat manipulator from the shadows) so...bah. I also don't get the kids hatings....I mean, they carry the whole plot, the whole arc is based on drugs and those kids as mediums...the "thing" that sleeps on the island and is able to defeat a yonkou is also probably related to the drugs...Hating kids here is like hating the whole arc; I know you're all shounen fans, but I always considered OP something more than just that? EDIT: forgot to add my opinion of the chapter. It was nice and I enjoyed it. :D |
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Oct 24, 2012 3:57 PM
#49
Another chapter where you think something epic is gonna happen...but doesn't. Still great overall. I just kinda want a fight to get underway already!! :D :D :D |
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