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Nov 9, 2018 5:30 PM

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RE said:
Bajar said:

u
You'll probably find it difficult since I'm voting Abu as well, but good luck!

how does this make it difficult? Looks like opportunistic scum looking for an easy bus to clear themselves to me.
Nov 9, 2018 5:30 PM

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AbuHumaid said:
is this motherfucker fucking with me?
If his play does not change by the end of the phase, and my confidence in someone being scum does not rise above 50%, I propose we policy lynch him.
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not.
Nov 9, 2018 5:30 PM

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AbuHumaid said:
is this motherfucker fucking with me?

yes
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RE said:
Bajar said:

u
You'll probably find it difficult since I'm voting Abu as well, but good luck!
can't you see he's trolling?
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RE said:
AbuHumaid said:
is this motherfucker fucking with me?
If his play does not change by the end of the phase, and my confidence in someone being scum does not rise above 50%, I propose we policy lynch him.

+1
Nov 9, 2018 5:31 PM

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Bajar said:
RE said:
You'll probably find it difficult since I'm voting Abu as well, but good luck!

how does this make it difficult? Looks like opportunistic scum looking for an easy bus to clear themselves to me.
Because level 0 reads tend to die off without further evidence!
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not.
Nov 9, 2018 5:32 PM
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@aa-dono @Togs can you just modkill this unfunny troll?
Nov 9, 2018 5:34 PM

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RE said:
Now that you're here, input away!

( @Karote )

(I have caught you in a trap where you ARE here, so you can't wriggle away without providing reads)

lol I see
Nov 9, 2018 5:34 PM

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RE said:
Bajar said:

how does this make it difficult? Looks like opportunistic scum looking for an easy bus to clear themselves to me.
Because level 0 reads tend to die off without further evidence!

that's exactly what a maf would say.

Well it's Day 1 anyway so nothing really has substance anyway maybe some results from night actions can get me thinking about stuff. I'm not gonna sit here and analyze people's grammar to tell if they are town or maf on Day 1. If that's a problem to you then yes please policy lynch me.
Nov 9, 2018 5:38 PM

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Bajar said:
RE said:
Because level 0 reads tend to die off without further evidence!

that's exactly what a maf would say.

Well it's Day 1 anyway so nothing really has substance anyway maybe some results from night actions can get me thinking about stuff. I'm not gonna sit here and analyze people's grammar to tell if they are town or maf on Day 1. If that's a problem to you then yes please policy lynch me.
Was mafia not lynched day 1 of the MALoween game you were in?
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not.
Nov 9, 2018 5:41 PM

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He complained about nobody being around yet his own contributions weren't great. I asked for reads and he focused solely on the scum (scum don't need to find town, they need to find town they can push as scum). The main factor is him thinking my scum game improved. I disagree, and of all people, he should as well.

I also feel boldness isn't AI for him. He has claimed scum as scum more than once.

(My confidence is around ~37%)
Nobody's contributions were great at that point of the game, what are you on about? Again, those "scumreads" weren't scumreads, just scummy stuff I noticed which weren't enough for me to say they're scum, I still have my eyes on Bajar and Tainted though.
Also, are you mad because I didn't feed your ego and give you a town read?

been in the back of my mind for a while.. might as well say it. a Bajar/Tainted team is possible, since who knows Bajar could be coached by Tainted to shitpost. just a thought.
Nov 9, 2018 5:56 PM

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AbuHumaid said:
@aa-dono @Togs can you just modkill this unfunny troll?


seems like a convenient way to decrease your vote count. lol
Phraze said:
AbuHumaid said:
Nobody's contributions were great at that point of the game, what are you on about? Again, those "scumreads" weren't scumreads, just scummy stuff I noticed which weren't enough for me to say they're scum, I still have my eyes on Bajar and Tainted though.
Also, are you mad because I didn't feed your ego and give you a town read?

been in the back of my mind for a while.. might as well say it. a Bajar/Tainted team is possible, since who knows Bajar could be coached by Tainted to shitpost. just a thought.


trust me I don't need training on that.
Nov 9, 2018 5:56 PM

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Bajar said:
RE said:
You'll probably find it difficult since I'm voting Abu as well, but good luck!

how does this make it difficult? Looks like opportunistic scum looking for an easy bus to clear themselves to me.
opportunistic how? what has Abu done that felt opportunistic, specifically?
Nov 9, 2018 5:58 PM

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Phraze said:
Bajar said:

how does this make it difficult? Looks like opportunistic scum looking for an easy bus to clear themselves to me.
opportunistic how? what has Abu done that felt opportunistic, specifically?


RE is being the opportunistic one. Abu is getting screwed.
Nov 9, 2018 5:59 PM

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Bajar said:
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opportunistic how? what has Abu done that felt opportunistic, specifically?


RE is being the opportunistic one. Abu is getting screwed.


no opportunity for him. hehe
Nov 9, 2018 6:00 PM

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Bajar said:
AbuHumaid said:
@aa-dono @Togs can you just modkill this unfunny troll?


seems like a convenient way to decrease your vote count. lol
Just a suggestion, if you see that someone's clearly getting worked up, probably the right thing is to stop antagonizing them
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Nov 9, 2018 6:01 PM

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apologies if I'm actually pissing you off Abu. just having a little fun here.
Nov 9, 2018 6:05 PM

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Bajar said:
apologies if I'm actually pissing you off Abu. just having a little fun here.
Fun is good unless it's at someone else's expense

troll me harder
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Nov 9, 2018 6:06 PM

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RE said:
troll me harder
actually don't, i think it'd be a pretty good time if we could get more serious reads and stuff
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Nov 9, 2018 6:10 PM

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RE said:
Now that you're here, input away!

( @Karote )

(I have caught you in a trap where you ARE here, so you can't wriggle away without providing reads)


Well damn ..
Nov 9, 2018 6:22 PM

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was there anything concrete discussed today or is it all just reads and speculation? too lazy to read it rn.
Nov 9, 2018 6:25 PM

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Easy explanation as to why I didn't post: After work, I had a girlfriend to deal with. :') Not scummy you little bastard who voted me for a stupid reason such as inactivity. This is the real world mate, things happen.

What an opportunistic scummy little play that I totally would normally just vote you for the heck of it, but let's not this time.

RE is town.


Any other thoughts I have will come out when they come out.
"I am the Bone of my Sword
Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood
I have created over a Thousand Blades
Unaware of Loss,
Nor aware of Gain.
Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival
I have no Regrets. This is the only Path
My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works"
Nov 9, 2018 6:29 PM

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Bajar said:
Phraze said:

been in the back of my mind for a while.. might as well say it. a Bajar/Tainted team is possible, since who knows Bajar could be coached by Tainted to shitpost. just a thought.


trust me I don't need training on that.

I doubt anyone needs to be trained for it. ur approach here is vastly different tho. I can see it as enjoying the freedom of being town, but ur recent #359 shows u don't mind killing town's chances at winning. scum are more cautious of their conduct for sure, but a fellow shitposter can volunteer to cover for any problems - coach them through it.

I can see the possibility. ur carefree approach could be lock!town if another troll wasn't present, since new scum don't dare act careless unless they can backtrack safely.
Nov 9, 2018 6:35 PM

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Bajar said:
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opportunistic how? what has Abu done that felt opportunistic, specifically?


RE is being the opportunistic one. Abu is getting screwed.

ok.... so ur saying RE and Abu are both scum?
Nov 9, 2018 6:36 PM

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If you don't remember I said something similar to #359 in our last game. Truth is I just don't put that much weight into Day 1 hunches so I figure I'd rather shitpost than not contribute and get prodded for it.

Anything I say will just get called "Level 0" by RE anyway.
Nov 9, 2018 6:37 PM

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might vote Bajar. even for jokes, reads are bad.
Nov 9, 2018 6:38 PM

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Bajar said:
If you don't remember I said something similar to #359 in our last game. Truth is I just don't put that much weight into Day 1 hunches so I figure I'd rather shitpost than not contribute and get prodded for it.

Anything I say will just get called "Level 0" by RE anyway.
it's my way of saying your deductions aren't backed up other than it *could* happen
if you can back up your reads i'd like to hear it
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Nov 9, 2018 6:39 PM

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Bajar said:
If you don't remember I said something similar to #359 in our last game. Truth is I just don't put that much weight into Day 1 hunches so I figure I'd rather shitpost than not contribute and get prodded for it.

Anything I say will just get called "Level 0" by RE anyway.
ur scumreading RE tho. why concerned about a scumread's opinion?
Nov 9, 2018 6:41 PM

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Phraze said:
might vote Bajar. even for jokes, reads are bad.

u wanna vote me after townreading me? ok that's scummy.
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Bajar said:
If you don't remember I said something similar to #359 in our last game. Truth is I just don't put that much weight into Day 1 hunches so I figure I'd rather shitpost than not contribute and get prodded for it.

Anything I say will just get called "Level 0" by RE anyway.
it's my way of saying your deductions aren't backed up other than it *could* happen
if you can back up your reads i'd like to hear it

I can't it's Day 1.
Phraze said:
Bajar said:
If you don't remember I said something similar to #359 in our last game. Truth is I just don't put that much weight into Day 1 hunches so I figure I'd rather shitpost than not contribute and get prodded for it.

Anything I say will just get called "Level 0" by RE anyway.
ur scumreading RE tho. why concerned about a scumread's opinion?

I don't take Day 1 reads seriously I'm just voting random.
Nov 9, 2018 6:43 PM

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Bajar said:
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might vote Bajar. even for jokes, reads are bad.

u wanna vote me after townreading me? ok that's scummy.
RE said:
it's my way of saying your deductions aren't backed up other than it *could* happen
if you can back up your reads i'd like to hear it

I can't it's Day 1.
Phraze said:
ur scumreading RE tho. why concerned about a scumread's opinion?

I don't take Day 1 reads seriously I'm just voting random.

- I don't remember townreading u. if I did, then ur probably backreading afterall.
- why vote only Abu then? needs few vote changes to count as 'voting random'.
Nov 9, 2018 6:44 PM

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Phraze said:
might vote Bajar. even for jokes, reads are bad.

u wanna vote me after townreading me? ok that's scummy.
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Bajar said:
If you don't remember I said something similar to #359 in our last game. Truth is I just don't put that much weight into Day 1 hunches so I figure I'd rather shitpost than not contribute and get prodded for it.
This is one of the few ideologies I refuse to accept in mafia
It's far from true. The game you were in lynched mafia day 1. The past two games on this site lynched mafia day 1. You can definitely put weight into day 1 reads. And if not scum reads, town reads
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Nov 9, 2018 6:45 PM

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not even gonna bother editing that, looks too messy
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Nov 9, 2018 6:45 PM

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lawl I voted like 5 different people.
Nov 9, 2018 6:46 PM

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@RE cool but I don't read anyone as town tho.
Nov 9, 2018 6:48 PM

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Vote: Bajar

ehhh gotta go. good night
reasons given.
Nov 9, 2018 6:48 PM

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RE said:
RE said:
If you voted for pressure on a player due to their inactivity, why not go for Karote, who had more votes at the time?
I don't think a single vote when there are 3/2/2/2 wagons constitutes as much pressure. Why Riku over the other inactive players?
Also - if you say you might move your vote later, doesn't that defeat the purpose in voting for pressure?

When I say pressure, I just mean "Hey I'm not forgetting about you guys!" Picked Riku because for said reason in my last post. Still have another day to go I think, so I'll look at the wagons and change my vote closer to end of day if I don't already.
Nov 9, 2018 6:51 PM

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riku said:
Easy explanation as to why I didn't post: After work, I had a girlfriend to deal with. :') Not scummy you little bastard who voted me for a stupid reason such as inactivity. This is the real world mate, things happen.

What an opportunistic scummy little play that I totally would normally just vote you for the heck of it, but let's not this time.

RE is town.


Any other thoughts I have will come out when they come out.
Aye, that's fine as I thought that was probably the case. Just wanted to see.

UNVOTE

Don't have other thoughts after eight pages though?
Nov 9, 2018 6:55 PM

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starpendle said:
riku said:
Easy explanation as to why I didn't post: After work, I had a girlfriend to deal with. :') Not scummy you little bastard who voted me for a stupid reason such as inactivity. This is the real world mate, things happen.

What an opportunistic scummy little play that I totally would normally just vote you for the heck of it, but let's not this time.

RE is town.


Any other thoughts I have will come out when they come out.
Aye, that's fine as I thought that was probably the case. Just wanted to see.

UNVOTE

Don't have other thoughts after eight pages though?

Not really, I tend to find Day 1 is either full of
A) Paranoid town reading the most into the least important details or
B) Aggressive scum pushing incredibly hard
C) Useless information.

I'll probably piece information of the next pages along with the pages from 1-8.
"I am the Bone of my Sword
Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood
I have created over a Thousand Blades
Unaware of Loss,
Nor aware of Gain.
Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival
I have no Regrets. This is the only Path
My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works"
Nov 9, 2018 6:55 PM

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Vote: RE

My reason is that I think they are mafia.

Not gonna give a better reason because it will just get called Level 0 which it probably is tbh.
Nov 9, 2018 6:57 PM

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Bajar is town for being level 0
"I am the Bone of my Sword
Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood
I have created over a Thousand Blades
Unaware of Loss,
Nor aware of Gain.
Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival
I have no Regrets. This is the only Path
My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works"
Nov 9, 2018 7:00 PM

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Rest of the scumteam FoS: Karote and Abu and Kiiruma

again not for any reason in particular.

Just keep these posts in mind when those 4 are instrumental in getting me lynched today.
Nov 9, 2018 7:01 PM

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riku said:
Bajar is town for being level 0

ty bae ;)
Nov 9, 2018 7:08 PM

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also light FoS: ironace, yurkin, Riku, and Kit

everyone else is town town town.
Nov 9, 2018 7:11 PM

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🍧 Vote Count 1.6 🍧


ForgotToFlush [2] 🎂 ironace, Astros
Karote [2] 🎂 yurkin, Kit
yurkin [2] 🎂 Karote, Tainted


AbuHumaid [1] 🎂 ForgotToFlush
Phraze [1] 🎂 Jormandur
Bajar [1] 🎂 Phraze
RE [1] 🎂 Bajar


Not Voting: AbuHumaid, Riku, Kiiruma, starpendle

🕰️ Timer 🕰️

Edit: Fixed
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town area (people not interested in lynching today):
Tainted
Phraze
Astros
riku

meh town area (people i'd default to clear the game state up only if the other options seem horrible):
Bajar

the "they look good on first glance but it's nothing a wolf can't fake so i'll need more but will probably leave alone but will reconsider later" pile:
starpendle
yurkin

neutral af:
FTF
Kiiruma
Karote

people who should be posting so i don't know why they aren't and i instinctively scumread them for that:
Kit
ironace

scummy area:
Jor
Abu

edit: added ironace
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Nov 9, 2018 7:25 PM

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vote: Jormandur

Kinda wanna leave Abu alone for now though. Phraze brought up valid points, and while Abu can get pissed as scum, feel like his reaction bears more resemblance to confused town than caught scum.
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Nov 9, 2018 7:41 PM

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list update
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just woke up stuff soon
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Count me in

vote: jormandur
Nov 9, 2018 10:38 PM

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Phraze said:
Tainted said:
I guess.. It's just like asking if you're wolf
hmm didn't look like it. tho makes sense

Tainted said:
I'm confused tbh
So whats your case on him taking out the reference/support?
I made observation based on a current post, along with ref for support cuz sheeping is him.
Ironace entered a commentary on Abu that was built on reference/meta, using some examples here to support his references - vice versa stepping, which is usually wrong, and lazy. I would expect more 'base' from this game than an old game, even if Ironace follows popular opinion often.
Hmm I think I get what you mean like a different presentation of it or something like that?
Anyway I still think that your reference is the base cause your case would've been incomplete without it like a base should be able to stand on its own without the support/ref
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